The "Cramp" Family

Cramp 1.3 The Children of William Cramp and Elizabeth

William Cramp baptised 12 November, 1637 at Crowhurst married (2) Elizabeth

They had three children Mercy, William and John.  Information has only been found relative to John who was baptised 15 July, 1745 at Catsfield and married on 7 April, 1704 at Etchingham Sussex to Elizabeth CRACKBURN.

John and Elizabeth according to records had four children all born in Catsfield Sussex.  Elizabeth baptised 4 February, 1704, John baptised 15 December, 1706 but died and was buried 26 May, 1708, Thomas baptised 1 August, 1708 who married 17 August, 1737 at Wortling Sussex Mary MILLER  and John baptised 1 July, 1711 who married 2 January, 1742 at Catsfield Elizbeth PIM.

Elizabeth CRACKBURN died and was buried 1 April, 1751 at Catsfield.

Cramp 1.3.3       The Children of John Cramp and Elizabeth CRACKBURN

John Cramp born 1711 the fourth child of John Cramp and Elizabeth Crackburn married Elizabeth PIM 2 January, 1742 at Catsfield.

From the union of John (1711) and Elizabeth PIM there were seven children. John 1732, Hannah 1733, William 1736, Anne 1738/9, John 1742 (married Ann Duke 1775), Jury 1744 and Sarah 1747.

William born 2 April, 1736 married Rachel at Bexhill in 1752 and four children were found from this union.  Anne 1754, Mary 1758, Hannah 1759 and Elizabeth 1763.

Mary born 17 January, 1758 at Bexhill married Charles ADAMS.

Cramp 1.3.3       The children of John CRAMP and Elizabeth CRACKBURN.

The third child of John and Elizabeth was Thomas Cramp baptised 1 August, 1708 at Catsfield and married 17 August, 1737 at Wortling SSX Mary MILLER.

This union produced six children, Elizabeth baptised 4 February, 1739 Ninfield SSX,  John baptised 26 December, 1742 Hooe Ssx, Thomas baptised 20 January, 1744 Ninfield SSX married 9 May, 1771 Hooe SSX to Jane WINTER (baptised 25 August, 1747 Pevensey SSX), William baptised 29 March, 1747 Ninfield, Samuel baptised 9 April, 1749 Hooe but died and buried 11 October, 1753 Ninfield and Mary baptised 28 July, 1751 Ninfield who unfortunately also died and was buried 2 December, 1753 at Ninfield SSX.

Thomas died and was buried 15 September, 1785 at Hooe SSX.

Cramp 1.3.3.3    The children of Thomas CRAMP and Mary MILLER

Thomas CRAMP baptised 1744 married 1771 Jane WINTER baptised 25 August, 1747 at Pevensey SSX.

From this union were eight children all born and baptised at Hooe SSX, Elizabeth 1773, William baptised 17 March, 1776, Rynear Winton baptised 10 May,  1778 died and was buried 2 August, 1778 at Hooe SSX, Jane 1779, Thomas 1782, James 1785, Samuel baptised 15 June,1788 and  Sarah. 1792.

Elizabeth baptised 7 March, 1773 married 30 June, 1793 Hooe SSX, John VICKERS.

Jane baptised 29 August, 1779 married (unknown) children Sarah baptised 12 December, 1798   (Sarah subsequently had Elizabeth (illegitimate) baptised 21 September, 1817 at Hooe SSX.)

Thomas baptised 12 May, 1782 married Elizabeth BURGESS 1801 and had eleven issue.

James baptised 9 March, 1785 married (unknown) children Samuel baptised 1827.  James died and was buried 1836 aged 51 years at Bexhill.

Sarah baptised 22 January, 1792 married the day after her twenty third birthday in 1815 Thomas MANN (Munn).  Sarah had an illegitimate son George baptised 23 October, 1814 who married Lucy Noakes Christmas Day 1844 in Bexhill SSX and had seven issue.

Thomas Cramp died and was buried 1 December, 1816 at Hooe SSX aged 73 years and Jane died and was buried 8 February, 1820 also at Hooe SSX aged 75 years.

Cramp 1.3.3.3.8 Family of Thomas MANN and Sarah CRAMP

George, the illegitimate son of Sarah Cramp who married Thomas Mann, was baptised 23 October, 1814 and married Lucy Noakes Christmas Day 1844 in Bexhill SSX, had seven children.

Thomas George 1845, Sarah Mann 24 March, 1849 (baptised 10 June, 1849), Henry 29 April, 1851, Alfred 26 February,1854, Mary baptised 29 June, 1856, Lucy 1859 and Edward 24 November,1863 (baptised 10 January, 1864), all at Bexhill SSX

Lucy baptised 3 March, 1859 married Edward Thomas POCOCK on 11 September, 1881.

Thomas George, who was born 28 November, 1845 at Bexhill SSX, married Mary Ann (Emey) on 17 July, 1869.  Mary Ann was born 9 January, 1848 at Bexhill SSX.

From this union were five children.  Ellen Elizabeth 26 January, 1870, Mary Matilda 30 July, 1871, Joseph Charles baptised 15 December, 1874, Ann Eliza baptised 3 June, 1877 and George Thomas 1903 all at Bexhill SSX.

Thomas George died 6 June, 1917 and Mary Ann died 26 January, 1918 both at Bexhill SSX.

Mary Matilda born 30 July, 1871 married John TASKER born 25 November, 1868 (Hartfield SSX) on 30 April, 1896 at Bexhill SSX.  From this union came a daughter Ann who married a Mr Woodhouse in Canada.

Mary Matilda died 18 May, 1949 at Bexhill and John died 13 May, 1943 also at Bexhill Ssx.

George Thomas son of Thomas George and Mary Ann married Winifred Mary (PURKISS) the day after Christmas in 1903 and a child Maud Winifred was born 11 May, 1905.

Children of   

Wilfred Reginald CRAMP born 18 May, 1894.

Register General Survey Branch draftsman professional Grade B.  First appointed to service 3 August, 1911 with a salary of £170 pounds.

Reference: Public Service List 1915-1917 (1917 p 77).

Cramp 6.1 Children of George Cramp and Kekiah (Kezia) Burgess.

Family of William CRAMP and Mary (CHRISTMAS)

William Cramp was the second child of George Cramp a powder maker and Kekiah Burgess.  He was born 10 October, 1842 at Bexhill (ref 151 SSX), parish of Crowhurst in Sussex.

Nothing is known of William’s young life.  However, it is known that he became a builder’s foreman, plasterer and married Mary Christmas at St Leonards in Sussex on 28 March, 1863 (ref 476 SSX).

Mary was born on 8 March, 1840, the fifth child of Trayton Christmas a farmer and Mary Ann SARGEANT.   In all there were 14 children in Mary’s family.

William and Mary emigrated to Australia in November, 1887 (though according to Williams’s death certificate c1886).  They arrived and settled in Lindsay Street, Hamilton Newcastle north of Sydney in NSW.

To Australia with William and Mary, came Mary Annie born 1863; William Frederick born 1866 died 1924; Montague Walter born 1874 and Karl Reginald born 1878.  Another child Charles Herbert Trayton born 1872 had however died just 7 months of age.

George Ernest the third child of this union born 1869 had emigrated to Australia some five months earlier by himself.

William, a plasterer died 30 June, 1894 Lindsay Street Hamilton (ref 6265/15) at the age of 51 years of Carcinoma of the Liver.  Mary died 29 July, 1909 aged 69 years in Sydney.  They are both buried in a family grave at Sandgate Cemetery in Newcastle NSW (Methodist No 1 fiche 14 page 28 Transcription No 352 grave No 13/15).

In the grave with them are their daughter Mary Annie and granddaughter Nellie Christmas Wonders (aged just four months).

The grave which has a large marble headstone is surrounded by a small wrought iron fence and though there are a few weeds is reasonably well kept.

Cramp 7.2 Children of William Cramp and Mary (Christmas)

Family of George Ernest Cramp and Mary Ann Eliza (Watkins).

My great grandfather, George Ernest Cramp at the age of 17 years, arrived in Sydney aboard the Orient line steamship "Iberia", of 4702 tons register.  The ship left the Port of London with J.W. Shannon as Master, arriving in Sydney in June, 1887.

He came alone, leaving behind his parents, family and friends on the 28 April, 1887, a journey which took approximately 2 months.  His ticket No 88 cost him 16 guineas and this allocated him an open berth No 240.  The original of this ticket was on public display in the P & O Museum offices in London, the museum now being closed.

George Ernest was born on 18th August, 1869 at Garland Road, Reigate Surrey in England.  His father was William Cramp, a plasterer and his mother Mary (Christmas).  George had four brothers and one sister.  William Frederick born 10 March, 1866, Montague Walter born 9 January, 1874, Karl Reginald born 21 January, 1878 and Mary Annie born 22 October 1864.  Also Charles Herbert Trayton born 19 May 1872, but he died Christmas day 1872.

In November, 1887 William and Mary arrived in Sydney from England with the rest of the family and settled at Hamilton in Newcastle north of Sydney.

Mary Ann Eliza Watkins, was born 11 May 1872 in Wolverhampton England, only daughter of Joseph Smith Watkins a plater and Hannah (Fowler) of Wolverhampton.  She arrived in Sydney two days before Christmas 1887 aboard the "Oroya" with her brother John Samuel Watkins.

George Ernest met Mary Ann Eliza and they were married on her 20th birthday in the Congregational Church (ref 23/4947 NSW) Illawarra Road, Marrickville a Sydney suburb.  On the marriage certificate their usual address at the time was given as 12 Engine Street, Sydney.

Engine Street, was originally called Victoria St, Ultimo and renamed in 1875 to Engine Street.  The name was again changed on 16 August, 1910 to Ultimo Road when a large portion of the road was incorporated into the site of the new Haymarkets.

The resolution by the Council of the City of Sydney on 16 August, 1910 reads "That the portion of Engine St, remaining after the erection of the new markets extending from George Street, to Thomas Street and terminating at Ultimo Road, be renamed Ultimo Road".

George Ernest was a Milk Vendor and Mary was engaged in domestic duties.   In 1893 on 5 June a daughter Mabel Annie was born. 

My grandfather George Frederick Joseph was born 27 November, 1894.  The address given at his birth was 642 Harris Street, Ultimo.  Next door at 644 is a shop, possibly a business conducted by George Ernest (yet to be confirmed).  The house has long been demolished but the shop still exists though is vacant and due also for demolition.

On 24 February, 1897 George Ernest joined a Masonic lodge named "Lodge St Leonards No 98", which met at North Sydney.  It was whilst living at St Leonards that another son Montague Stafford was born on 7 June, 1897.  Tragically Montague only lived for six months when in the December he pulled a candle into his cot and was burned.

A third son Jack Stafford was born at North Sydney on 3 October, 1899 and 20 months later their fourth son Alfred W was born on 12 June, 1901.

In 1903 George Ernest was elected and installed as Master of Lodge St Leonards No 98.

The family moved to 27 Devonshire Street, North Sydney a house still standing today, and it was here that a fifth son Herbert Kelvin was born on 13 August, 1908.

Between August, 1908 and October, 1908 the family again moved to 75 Wentworth Road, Strathfield and opened a grocery store.  The store was on the southern corner of the "T" junction with Russell Street.  The building has long since been demolished and a block of units has been built on the site. 

The original telephone number was "Burwood 584" but this changed sometime in 1915 to "U4585" and again some time later to "UA4584".

In 1914 on 12 August their second daughter Grace Mary Stafford was born.

With the onset of "The Great War" in 1914, times were very hard.  One son, George Frederick away at the war and five children to care for and a grocery store to manage.  Still the family survived and the grocery store flourished.

The family moved from the Strathfield residence sometime in 1924 and opened another store in Ashfield in conjunction with a Mr Smith, cnr Queen and Armstrong Streets. 

They lived at 20 Trevenar Street, Ashfield.  Both the store and the house in Ashfield are still there today (1996).  Though the store is now owned by the RAAD Bros.

In 1927 George Ernest became a foundation member of the Lodge "True Friendship No 600", which held their meetings at Summer Hill.  George remained a member of both lodges until he passed away on 13 September, 1931.  He is buried at the Independent Cemetery at Rookwood NSW in grave No 1070 Section K.

According to probate No 178205, George Ernest was shown as a storekeeper late of Ashfield (his will dated 7/6/1914) with estate sworn at his death of 669/2/1 pounds.

The grave unfortunately is unmarked and considerably overgrown with vines and weeds.  It is my hope that one day to at least remember George Ernest with a white cross.

Of their 7 children, George Ernest would have had 12 grandchildren, 16 great grandchildren, 19 great great grandchildren and six great great great grandchildren.  A total of 60 dependants, of these 49 are still alive today (November, 1996).  George Ernest was affectionately known to his grandchildren as "Fardy".

After George Ernest's death in 1931, Mary Ann Eliza moved to Lot 111 Dymond Street, Bargo, south of Sydney, with her mother Hannah Watkins (Fowler).  Mary lived in Bargo until her death on Christmas Eve 1953 aged 81 years.  A service was held on Boxing Day at St Pauls Church (2pm) and she is buried in an unmarked grave in the Church of England section of Bargo cemetery [R Wartens Funeral Director, Picton].   Hannah Watkins died in 1943 at the ripe old age of 98 years.

My thanks for supplying generous information:

P & O Shipping Line Historical Museum, London.

United Grand Lodge of Ancient, Free and Accepted Masons.

Burwood Drummoyne Public Library.

The Council of the City of Sydney.

Great Uncle Kelvin (H K Cramp). [1]

Jack Stafford died 18 June,, 1975 aged 75 years at hospital (late of St Georges Crescent, Drummoyne).

Alfred W died 1988.

Grace Mary Stafford died 1950.

Living Descendants of George Ernest Cramp and Mary Ann Eliza (Watkins)

                                                      (1869-1931)               (1872-1953)

BURTON           Judith Lorraine Cramp married Greg Burton

Children:           Sarah                            born 1976

Allison                                                   born 1978

Jessie                                                    born 1984

CHASELING       Amy Cramp married Brian Chaseling

Children:           Elisse Peggy Stafford      born

Gaye                                                     born

Christopher                                            born

Christopher married

Children:

Gaye married

Children:

CRAMP              Alfred Jack Stafford married Nellie Allard

Children:           Robert John                   born 1948

Janice Elizabeth                                      born 1951

Barry                                                    born 1954

Robert John married Marilyn Bunt

Children:           Rebecca Kate                 born 1981

David John Shaw                                    born 1983

Janice Elizabeth married (1) Warren Harper

Children:           Darren Robert                born 1972

Janice Elizabeth married (2) Jeff Crowd

Name now STAFFORD

Children:           Nathan Walter               born 1983

Barry married Karen Bell

Children:           Amy                              born

Jessica                                                  born

CRAMP                          Frederick Desmond married Edna Booth

Children:           Suzanne Elaine               born 1948

Steven Maxwell                                     b & d 1950

Judith Lorraine                                       born 1951

CRAMP                          Alfred married Maude

Children:           Amy                              born

Henry (Harry)    born 1924

CRAMP                          Alfred (not married) & Ivy

Children:          

William James Stafford                           born 1940

CRAMP              Herbert Kelvin married Elizabeth Condon

Children:           Kenneth Graham            born 1940

Kenneth Graham married Kaye

Children:           Anthony John                 born

Cheryl Ann                                            born

DRAYTON                     Suzanne Elaine Cramp married Graham Drayton

Children:                       Jeffrey              born 1971

Rodney                         born 1973

Lauren                          born 1978

Phillip                                                    born 1980

GOILE               Sidnie Stafford (Parkes) married (1) Cyril Goile

Children:           Lauré Geness Stafford    born 1943

HARPER            Darren Robert (not) married Suzanne Gaye Harding

Children:           Justin Cameron              born 4.6.1992

Rochelle Tegan                                      born 11.1.1994

HOLZ                Mamie Cramp married (2) Barry Holz

Children:           Warren Frederick           born

PETERSEN         Grace Mary Stafford Cramp married Theo Petersen (died 1950)

Children:           Roger James Stafford     born 1942

Naida Dorelle     born 1947

PORTER            Gail (Tonkin) married Dennis Porter

Children:           Karen                            born 1970

Veronica                                                born 1971

Anthony                                                born 1972

ROLLS               Sidnie Stafford (Parkes) married (4) Jack

Rolls

Children:           NI

TONKIN            Mamie Cramp married (1) Bert Tonkin

Children:           Gail                               born 1950

Kaye                                                     born 1951

Brian                                                     born 1954

WALKER            Lauré Geness Stafford Goile married

                        Anthony Walker 1961 div 1976

Children:           David Eden                    born 1962

Leigh Robyn                                          born 1963

Ian Anthony                                           born 1983

David Eden married Julie Steele

Children:           Lyndon Russell               born 1984

Ian Anthony (not married) Elana

Children:           Louise                           born

Ian Anthony (not married) Wendy Norris

Children:           Jarrod Anthony              born 1991

Sharna Louise    born 1996

Leigh Robyn married Peter Maxwell

Children: NI

WILLIAMSON    Donald Gordon married Bella Blake (died 1993) NI.

Cramp 7.2 Children of William Cramp and Mary (Christmas)

8.1     Mary Annie Cramp and William Wonders

Mary Annie Cramp born 22 October, 1864 Hastings SSX, eldest child of William Cramp and Mary (Christmas) married Christmas day, 1889 William Wonders.

Mary and William had a son Bert born 1892 also a daughter Nellie Christmas born January 1893 though she  died 16 May, 1893.

Mary Annie died 7 July, 1894 aged 29 years at Hamilton Newcastle NSW.  Both Mary and their daughter Nellie are buried together with Marys' parents in the family grave at Sandgate cemetery Newcastle NSW.

Cramp 7.2 Children of William Cramp and Mary (Christmas)

8.6     Karl Reginald Cramp and Ethel May Neill

Karl Reginald Cramp MA was born 21 January, 1878 at Reigate Surrey in England, son of William Cramp (builder's foreman) and Mary (Christmas).

In November, 1887 he arrived in Sydney with his parents, brothers William and Montague and sister Mary, who settled in Newcastle north of Sydney.

Karl was educated at Hamilton Public School in Newcastle.  On September 9, 1895 became a pupil teacher with the Department of Public Instruction.  In 1900 he entered Fort Street Training School and won a scholarship to the University of Sydney (BA 1904 with the Frazer Scholarship in history, MA 1906).

On Christmas eve 1901 he married Ethel May (Neill) at Newcastle and he was appointed lecturer at the Teachers College in February, 1906 he became  an examiner in the Chief Inspector's branch of the Department of Public Instruction May 20, 1912 with a salary of  ^500 pounds and Chief Examiner in 1922.

With J.G. Bartholemew, Karl Reginald published the "Australian School Atlas" (Oxford 1915) which was widely used in NSW schools for many years.  Between 1909-54 he examined in History at the university Public examinations and from 1915-22 lectured for the University Extension Board (he was first Vice President of the Workers Education Association) and was sometime President and Vice President of the Teachers Guild of NSW.

Karl joined the (Royal) Australian Historical Society in July, 1910, became an original fellow in 1916 and a life member in 1918.  Honorary Secretary 1915-20, 1922-27, 1930-36, 1943-44, President in 1921, 1928-29, 1937-39, 1953 and Vice president in 1941-42, 1945-52 & 1955, also a director and Vice President of the NSW Institute for Deaf, Dumb and Blind and a secondary schools inspector from 1923 to 1943 when he retired. An exacting inspector, feared by the teachers, his style was florid, his tone chauvinistic and moralising.

Other important notes:  was a member of Captain Cook's landing place trust and the La Peruse monuments, a section President at the Australian and New Zealand Association for the advancement of Science Conference in 1937 at Auckland.  A member of Australian 150th Anniversary celebrations Council (1936-1938) and convenor of its historical exhibition.  First Vice President (1947) and President (1949) of the NSW branch of National Trust of Australia.  Karl received an OBE in 1933.

He was also past Deputy Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and accepted Masons in 1948.

Karl and Ethel had two sons and two daughters, Reginald, Cameron Oliver, Margaret and Ethel Victoria.  He died at home in Bellevue Hill on 19 July, 1956 and is buried at the Methodist section of Woronora Cemetery.

His estate was valued for probate (456376) at 26,357.0.0 pounds. Though never modest about his scholarship, he did much to promote the study of Australian History.

Karl Reginald CRAMP published much Australian History including:

Australian Winners of the Victoria Cross, 1919 - A Record of the deeds that won the Decoration during the great war 1914-1919; compiled from official records.

Australia, a Greater Britain in a Southern World, 1928.

Australia at the Time of Darwin's visit 1836, 1936.

The Australian Historical Society - The Story of its Foundation, 1917.

Bass & Flinders Memorial - Wattamolla Address Oct 22, 1938, 1929.

Bicentenary of Captain Cook's birth celebrations at the base of Captain Cook Statue - Hyde Park Sydney Oct 27, 1928, 1929.

Calendar of Events in Australian History, 1933.

Captain Charles Sturt's expedition into the interior 1844-46, 1944.

Captain J H Watson - A Life Sketch and an appreciation, 1934.

An English Grammar for Primary and Secondary Pupils - written to meet the requirements of the Education Department of NSW 1935.

From Jubilee to Diamond Jubilee - History of Ten Years of the Grand United Lodge of Freemasonry 1949.

Great Australian Explorers, 1926

Great Englishmen 1603-1922, for pupils studying for the Intermediate Certificate examinations, 1923.

Kurnell and Sir Joseph Banks, July 1950.

Lansdowne Bridge Centenary Celebrations

Lodge University of Sydney No 544 United Grand Lodge of NSW 1924-1945.

One Hundred and Fifty years in Australia, 1937.

119th Anniversary of Proclamation of Bathurst, 1934.

The Roar Material of History - Schoolboy howlers 1946

Royal Australian Historical Society, 25 years in Progress 1915-1940

Series of Lessons on Aboriginal Life.

Sir George Reid's Place in the Federal Movement - 1953

Some Aspects of the Life and Career of Sir Henry Parkes - 1937

Some Historical Memorials and Buildings - 1933

The State and Federal Constitutions of Australia - 1913

Stories from Australian History

Story of Australian Handling of the Financial Crisis in 1929 and after - 1937

Story of the Australian People - 1927

Story of English People

A Struggle for the Constitution NSW 1848-53, - 1913

Typical Story of Settlement in the Farming Districts of NSW - 1923

Wattle Day and its Significance

Who Discovered Payable Gold in Australia - 1947

William Charles Wentworth - 1918

With George Mackaness he published:

A History of the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons NSW -

1938 and 1949

TEACHING RECORD

Pupil Teacher Newcastle                         Sept 1895

Pupil Teacher Hamilton                           July 1897

Trained at Fort Street, Training School     1900

Assistant Wickham                                 January, 1901

Assistant Newtown                                 April, 1901

Assistant Fort Street                               February, 1904

Assistant Wallsend                                 April, 1905

Assistant Fort Street Training School        July, 1905

Examiner of Trainee Teachers                 May 1912

Inspector of Schools                               August, 1923

Retired                                                  January, 1942

PHOTOGRAPH - Unveiling a Tablet to the Explorers by K.R. Cramp President R.A.H.S. 1928

Photo chows Mr Cramp with his hand on the Tablet inscribed "Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson camped here May 12, 1813 R.A.H.S."

Witnesses are gathers around him and the stone which is approx 5 miles SE of Emu Ford.

Transferred from Vaucluse House 20.1.1964

REFERENCES

Australian Dictionary of Biography Volume 8, 1891-1939 CL to GIB

First Published 1981. Printed in Aust by Wilke & Co Ltd, Clayton Vic 3168 for Melbourne University Press.

Mitchell Library of NSW Ref 991R, A827C, 990-1C & W, 990.06C, 572-9901C,

342-901 45A1, 991A, 940-934C, 428-2 194, 366-10991 sA1, 908.1C, 920-042 9, 656.5 2, 334.7C, 990.1 45 34A, 506 A, 583.32 2, A923.29 W479, 942 4A1.

Public Service List 1915-1917 (1917 p125)

Cramp 8.6 Children of Karl Reginald Cramp and Ethel May (Neill)

Cameron Oliver Cramp

Cameron Oliver Cramp son of Karl Reginald Cramp and Ethel May (Neill) was born (date unknown).

Educated in Sydney he graduated from Sydney University in 1930 MB BS and was a member of the British Medical Association.

In the 1968 Medical Directory, Cameron is listed as RMO at Royal North Shore Hospital "Sydney" 1931, Women's Hospital 1932, Royal Alexandria Hospital for Children Sydney 1932, Hon MO Maitland District Hospital 1934-41, SMO Medico-Legal Lab, Department of Public Health NSW, member Australian Medical Association.

From 1934-41 he lived at William Street, Raymond Terrace, north of Sydney.  In 1968 his residence was listed as 53 Woodlands Road, East Lindfield, Sydney.

Various publications written by Cameron were "The Anti-Human-Globulin-Inhibition Test - A Simple technique", Medical Journal Aust Oct 24, 1959.  "An Indirect method of blood grouping - An illustrative Case” Australian Police Journal July, 1960.

Cameron was chief forensic investigator involved in the Bogle-Chandler murder case 1958-60 and was connected with Medical Legal Laboratory Department of Public Health.

Cameron married Dorothy and a son Brian born 1st May, 1935 resulted.  Brian subsequently married Jeanice.  Children Jeff b 1962 and Rodney born 1965.

Cameron died 1 November, 1968 in Sydney (Probate 672017 East Lindfield)

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Cramp 7.2 Children of William Cramp and Mary (Christmas)

8.5     Montague Walter Cramp and Sabina Kathleen Fowles

Montague Walter Cramp born 9 January, 1874 married Sabina Kathleen (Fowles) born (date unknown).

Children

Esmond Montague born 20 August, 1899 Ref 36074 died 6 January, 1968 probate 649358 Islington NSW.

Children James, Ellen, Ronald James born 31 January, 1952 married

children Gary Esmond

Kenneth Vivian born 2 July, 1901  died c1994  married 1929 Myrtle Ann (Cornelius), children James Watten born 24 March, 1931 (College Art Lecturer), Maureen Ann born 22 May, 1933 and Lynette born 8 August, 1944

Coralie born 16 December, 1909 married (name unknown).

children Brett and Gregory

Winifred born 9 February, 1907 married.

children James Walter married Beth Watson, children Jenifer Maree, Leigh Elizabeth and Nicole Louise.

Maureen married Phill Judd children Christine, Stephen and Ken

Lynette married Peter Davis children Andrew Peter.

Montague Walter Cramp died 21 May, 1951

 Sabina Kathleen (Fowles) died 1 June, 1953 probate 414690 Islington NSW

Cramp 8.3 Children of George Ernest Cramp and Mary Ann Eliza (Watkins)

9.6     Herbert Kelvin Cramp and Elizabeth Condon

Herbert Kelvin Cramp born 13 August, 1908 at 27 Devonshire Street North Sydney, at age 28,  married 30 December, 1936 Elizabeth Eileen (Condon) born 15 September, 1909 Canterbury NSW.  Kelvin's usual residence at this time was 225 Commonwealth Street Sydney, he was shown as a Shop Assistant and Elizabeth as a Domestic Servant.

Elizabeth was the daughter of Edward Aloysius Condon a Grocer and Kathleen (Nash), her usual residence in 1936 was Kyle Pde Hurstville NSW.  They had one son Kenneth Graham born 25 September, 1940.

Kelvin and Elizabeth were divorced in 1944 and the sadness of this story is that Kelvin had no communication with his son from when Kenneth was about 3 years old.  The only evidence that a son existed not to mention a marriage was a photograph of Kenneth when he was about 2 years. 

Kelvin regularly travelled the world on the P & O shipping line in particular aboard the Orsova and Oronsay.  Sometimes alone, other times with his older brother Jack Stafford.

Eileen refused to allow Kelvin access to Kenneth and alienated him from his father.  It was not until I began researching the family and located Kenneth that Kelvin learned his son was still alive (aged 47 in 1987).  Kenneth had no inclination to get to know his father at this late stage of his life even though photos of Kelvin were sent and he was advised where his father was living.

Kelvin could only say in response - "Well at least I know he is alive and well and if he is happy that is OK".

On the 23 February, 1995 Kelvin died aged 86 years (late of Lottie Stewart Hospital Dundas) and was cremated at Pinegrove Memorial Park 27 February, 1995.

When Kelvin died, it was a lonely broken man that wished he could just once have met his son and grandchildren - but that never happened.

Kenneth Graham Cramp married Kaye.

children Anthony John and Cheryl Anne.

Cramp 8.3 Children of George Ernest Cramp and Mary Ann Eliza (Watkins)

9.2     Family of George Frederick CRAMP and Gladys SMITH

George Frederick Joseph - born 27 November, 1894 at 642 Harris Street, Ultimo NSW.  He was educated at Burwood Public School and Windsor Grammar School.  A motor mechanic by trade, he enlisted in the Army on his 22nd birthday in 1916 and was a private No 387 "B" Company 13th Battalion. 

He embarked January 24th 1917.  War service - France, acted as a stretcher bearer for some time and was later transferred to the 13th Battalion band.  He remained with the unit until hostilities ceased.

"Laddy" as he was affectionately known,  whilst on service in England and living at Roseville, Chester Place Malvern Worcester, met Gladys Olga Dorothy (Smith), born at Clifton on Teme, Worcester UK 15 July, 1896.  She was the daughter of James Francis Smith a blacksmith and Mary Ann (Bullock nee Chad) and lived at North Malvern Road, Malvern. 

They were married in the County of Worcester England two days before Christmas in 1918 (ref A17239/21UK). He returned to Australia and was discharged.

Gladys emigrated to Australia on the "CERAMIC", the first war bride ship to leave Liverpool England after World War I.  The ship arrived in Sydney 2nd October, 1919 carrying 485 AIF personnel, 304 women and 60 children.  It is assumed that George Frederick accompanied Gladys on this voyage though cannot be proven as the shipping records for the "Ceramic" did not list AIF personnel.

With Gladys came her daughter, Dorothy Mary (Smith) born 4 June, 1918.  Though not his blood child, George Frederick loved Dorothy as his own and was always known as her father.

George Frederick Joseph and Gladys had four children, Frederick Desmond born 26 March, 1920, my father Alfred Jack Stafford born 18 March, 1922 (ref 296 NSW), Norma Stafford born 11 February, 1924 though died on Remembrance day 1924 (11 November) of pneumonia aged 9 months.  Another daughter Mamie Stafford was born 10 April, 1927.

During World War II George Frederick was a WO2 and was stationed at Darwin NT.

Both Laddy and Gladys were active members of the Grand United Order of Oddfellows lodge and were welfare officers.  They were also caretakers of the original offices of the A.M.L. & F. situated at 4 Bligh Street Sydney.  They lived their last years at the Grand United Centenary Centre, Hammers Road Old Toongabbie until their deaths.

Gladys died on 6 April, 1970 aged 73 years and George Frederick Joseph died 15 August, 1976 both at Old Toongabbie and are remembered in the rose garden at the Centenary Centre.

Both are remembered lovingly by their grandchildren, as they could always find plenty of time to spread their love amongst them and take an interest in their every project.

Cramp 9.2 Children of George Frederick Joseph Cramp and Gladys Olga Dorothy (Smith).

10.2   Family of Jack CRAMP and Nell ALLARD

Alfred Jack Stafford Cramp (Jack) was born 18 March, 1922 at Liverpool Road Enfield, second son of George Frederick Joseph Cramp and Gladys Olga Dorothy (Smith).  The family lived at 103 Liverpool Road, Enfield in western Sydney with Frederick Desmond aged 2 years and Dorothy Mary (Smith) aged 4 years.

On the 11 February, 1924 Norma Stafford was born but died some nine months later on Remembrance day of Pneumonia and was buried at Rookwood Cemetery.  The family moved to 53 Seymour Parade Belmore.

In 1927 at the age of five, Jack attended Belmore North Public School.  On 10 April, 1929 a daughter Mamie Stafford was born at Burwood.

At the age of seven and ten days after Mamie=s birth a youth accidentally shot Jack with a Daisy gun wounding him in his left eye and was taken to Sydney Eye Hospital.  Though the eyesight was impaired there was no other permanent damage.

Approximately 1930 the family moved next door to 51 Seymour Parade and again moved in 1932 to 60 Margaret Street Harcourt.

In 1934 Jack attended Belmore Central Technical College, which is now known as Belmore Boys High School.  The subjects studied were Maths; English; Science; Metalwork; Woodwork; History and Geography.

The family again moved in 1935 to 8 Hugh Street Belmore, the property being owned by Mr Charles Webb, they moved again in 1936 three houses to 2 Hugh Street Belmore.

Mid 1936 Jack finished his schooling at the age of 14 years, unfortunately before he could gain any certificates.   Times were hard during this period and Jack was required to start work to help the family exist.

He started working for J W Mann and Sons situated at Angel Street, Newtown (an inner Sydney suburb) as a process worker making brass hinges.  In 1938 Jack resigned from J W Mann and started working at E G Spurway situated at Euston & Maddox Sts Alexandria as a process worker making electrical fittings.

Three days before the end of 1941, Jack joined the army at Bathurst with 2 Div AASC, training there until about June, 1942 then relocated to Greta in NSW.  He trained as a Motor mechanic at Moorebank western Sydney then transferred to RAEME at Ingleburn.  Trained at Canungra Jungle Training School in South Queensland near Lamington Plateau.

Embarked January 1944 for New Guinea, landed at Lae, moved to Port Moresby and later transferred back to Lae to 1st Australian Watercraft workshops.  Returned to Sydney April, 1945 and stationed at Chowder Bay.

On his return to Australia that same month, Jack met Nellie Muriel Allard at the Tivoli theatre Castlereagh Street Sydney.  A little over two months later they were engaged (30 June) and married at St John=s Church of England Campsie the day before Nellie's nineteenth birthday later that year.

Nellie was born on her mother=s birthday, (21/10/1926) at East Sydney, daughter of Sydney Childers Allard and Agnes Josephine Georgina Carter BROWN.   Nellie’s actual residence on her marriage certificate was shown as 92 Bondi Road, Bondi in eastern Sydney.   Jack was discharged from the AIF 26 October, 1945.

After the marriage Jack and Nell lived at 2 Hugh Street, Belmore with Jack=s parents.  In March, 1946 Jack trained as a plumber and eventually worked for F E Andrews, 6 Havelock Avenue, Coogee.

On Monday 4 November 1946 Jack purchased from the War Service Homes Commission the property at number 2 Hugh Street for the sum of ^780:0:0 pounds payable at a deposit of 45:0:0 pounds and instalments of 3:8:6 pounds each month.

In 1948 on 6 September, a son Robert John was born at the Royal Hospital for Women, Paddington.

Two and a half years later on 20 May 1951 a daughter Janice Elizabeth was born, again at the Royal Hospital for Women, Paddington.

On January 17, 1954 another son Barry was born, though on route to the Royal Hospital for Women Paddington, he decided he wanted to be born early and came whilst in the ambulance at the end of the street on the corner of Knox and Hugh Sts.

Jack left F E Andrews in June 1958 and worked for A L Vincent at 2 Byer Street, Enfield.

February 1963 saw Jack start work at British Automotive Industries at Harp Street, Belmore as a tool setter.   BAI later became Girlock Pty Ltd and on March 30, 1983 became part of the Repco Group.

On 12 July, 1983 Nell Cramp died at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital Camperdown of a Massive Miocardiac Infarction, Coronary Atherosclerosis and Generalised Atherosclerosis (ref 15258) she was cremated and buried in the Memorial Garden 11/1 at Rookwood Cemetery.

Jack remained with Girlock until 21 March, 1986 when he retired.  He sold the house at 2 Hugh Street, Belmore for $63,000.00 and purchased a 3 bedroom Villa home at 7/33 Marsden Road, St Marys in western Sydney for $58,500.00.

On Monday 2 June, 1986 Jack officially moved to his new house.

Jack was diagnosed with having Parkinson's disease, Diabetes and High blood pressure which limited his involvement in leisure and work activities.

When his daughter Janice moved to Toowoomba in June, 1994, Jack sold his house at St Marys for $97,000.00 and moved to Toowoomba.

Together they built a home at Westbrook just west of Toowoomba.   

Records:

Australian Military Forces discharge certificate No 249209 - NX193896 craftsman - AJS Cramp 2/7 Aust Advanced workshops.

Citizen Military Forces from 29/12/1941 to 18/9/1944

Australian Imperial Forces 19/9/1944 to 26/10/1945, 1398 days including active service.  In Aust 847 days and outside Aust 445 days

Received War Badge RAS No A131494

Discharges 26/10/1945

Description: Height 5'8", Eyes green; Complexion Fair; Hair Fair.

Trade Group in AIF GR3 Driver Mechanic. 

Cramp 10.2        Children of Jack CRAMP and Nell ALLARD

Janice cramp

Janice was born Sunday 20 May, 1951 at Royal Hospital for Women, Paddington NSW, daughter of Alfred Jack Stafford Cramp and Nellie Muriel (Allard).

She lived all of her young life at 2 Hugh Street Belmore with brothers John and Barry, Mum and Dad and for a short while, her Grandparents George Frederick and Gladys Olga Dorothy Cramp.

Started school in 1955 at Belmore North public school Burwood Road North Belmore.  In 1957 stayed with Auntie Mabel (Cramp) Butler on farm at Dymond Street, Bargo and attended Bargo public school for about 12 months.  Regularly went back to Bargo nearly every school holidays.

Learnt Ballet at Patricia Leys School of Ballet at Wilson Street, South Belmore.  Also learnt gymnastics and ballet at Belmore RSL Youth Club - Clarence House.  Studied Ballroom dancing at Belmore RSL Youth Club under George Weiss and at his studio at Dulwich Hill. 

In January, 1962 commenced High School at Canterbury Girls High, continued ballroom dancing until 1968, competing in many competitions and exhibitions.  Obtained bronze, silver and gold medals for Old Time Dancing and bronze medal for Latin American examinations under BDA (British Dancing Academy).

Passed School certificate examination in fourth year of high school and left school.  Studied typing and shorthand at Canterbury Business College during the evening for 12 months.   Began working at Commonwealth Banking Corporation Campsie branch on 6 December, 1966 as a Bank Clerk.  Stayed there for two years then transferred to relieving staff.  Spent six weeks at Muswellbrook NSW branch and three weeks at Murwillumbah NSW branch.  Relieved at various branches in Sydney metropolitan area and resigned from the bank in 1970.

In 1969 unofficially engaged to Michael Newnham from 51 Conway Street, Bankstown.

Late in 1971 met Warren Harper at Chester Hill Hotel.  Gave birth to a son Darren 30 July, 1972 at King George V Memorial Hospital Camperdown.  Married Warren Harper on Sunday 2 September, 1972 at the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital Chapel at Camperdown.

Lived in a flat at 7/9 Queen Street, Auburn.  Worked as an accounting machine operator at Sydney Night Patrol until September, 1972.  Best friend and next door neighbour Cheryl Fahey.

Then started work at Brambles Long Distance Transport, Fitzroy Street, Marrickville in October, 1972 until 1974 as an accounting machine operator and then computer entry clerk.  Divorced from Warren Harper 12 May, 1976.

Began work at ROH Auto Products as Secretary/Girl Friday at Pritchard Place, Peakhurst from 1974 to 1977.

Moved to 87 Water Street, Auburn in August, 1977 and also started work at Spinning Wheel Tyre Service Bourke Street, Woolloomooloo August, 1977.  My boss and friend Ray Wilkins.

Cousin Lauré Walker moved to Sydney and lived at 87 Water Street, Auburn for a while.

Met Jeff Crowd Thursday 3 May, 1979 on Parramatta Road, Lidcombe, when car had a flat tyre.  Started work at CHEP Pallet Systems, Arthur Street, Lidcombe in May 1979 as Office Supervisor.  Best friends Kerrie Andrews and Carol Gould.

March, 1980 moved to Brisbane to work for CHEP at Meeandah.  Lived at 22 Eastment Street, Rainworth, best friends Bev Smart, Des & Jenny McGowan, Dot & Mick Johnson.

Finished work at CHEP November, 1980.  Worked at COD Rocklea Markets as a clerk.  March 1981 moved to 6 Eastment Street, Rainworth.

Stopped work September 1981 and married Jeff Crowd, Sunday 4 October, 1981 at 1pm 6 Eastment Street, Rainworth - should have been at Mt Coot-tha Botanic Gardens Toowong, but it was the coldest October day for nearly 100 years (the temperature reaching a top of 110c.  Lauré Walker Bridesmaid and Mick Johnson best man.

December, 1981 went to Perth for eight weeks holiday to visit Sylvia (Jeff=s mother) and the Crowd family.   May 15, 1982 fell pregnant. 

Involved in family day care minding children at home from February 1982 to October 1982.

On Thursday 27 January, 1983 at 7.52am gave birth to a son Nathan Walter Crowd at Royal Women=s Hospital Brisbane.

Sylvia Crowd came to visit from Perth and stayed a month.  Met Mark Nicolaou friend of the Crowd family.  On 15 May, 1983 both Darren and Nathan were baptised at St Paul’s Catholic Church Rainworth.    Lauré Walker, Mark Nicolaou and Paul Crowd were Godparents.

Jeff left us on 4 May, 1983 and at the end of the month moved to 1/55 Stuckey Road, Clayfield.  On 12 July, 1983 mother Nell Cramp died.

In August, 1983 moved from Brisbane to Sydney and lived with father Jack Cramp in the family home at Belmore.

Christmas 1983 holidayed in Perth WA with Sylvia Crowd and met Winton and Leonie Lawton - very best of friends.

January, 1984 moved into a flat 16/527 Burwood Road Belmore.  During May, 1984 worked two months at CHEP Lidcombe as a Computer Operator and in July 1984 started work at Continental Grain, Grand Avenue Camellia as a debtors clerk.

Divorced Jeff Crowd on 7 August, 1984 and in the November, moved to 70 Luxford Road, Whalan in western Sydney.

On 4 August, 1985 started work at Coffey Engineering Peachtree Road, Penrith as a Secretary.

Began researching family history in January, 1986 and changed surname to STAFFORD.

Moved to 4 Melfell Road, Mt Pleasant (Penrith) on 28 February, 1987 and joined the Nepean Family History Society on 4 April, 1987.

On 14 November, 1987 purchased a house at 7 Pendock Road Mt Pleasant ($65,500.00) and moved in.  Settlement date 15 December, 1987.

In May 1988 started work at Penrith City Council as Purchasing Assistant.

In May 1994 appointed to the position of Purchasing Supervisor at Toowoomba Qld City Council.   Sold the house at Mt Pleasant for $109,000.00 and moved to Toowoomba with her father.

August, 1994 purchased 1/3 acre land at Lot 13 (1) Belclaire Drive Westbrook just west of Toowoomba.  Began building a Tamawood house in January, 1995 and moved in on her 44th birthday in 1995.

Cramp 8.3 Children of George Ernest Cramp and Mary Ann Eliza (Watkins)

9.5     Family of Alfred W CRAMP and Maud

Alfred born 12 June, 1901, married Maude

Children Harry (Henry) born 24 August, 1925

and Amy T.C. born 4 July, 1932 - married Brian Chaseling children Elissa Peggy Stafford born 11 November, 1967, Gay and Christopher

About 1940 Alf and Maude separated and Alf moved to Mt Isa and lived with Ivy (surname unknown) for about 10 years, never married.  A son William James Stafford (Cramp) born 13 May, 1940 eventuated from this union.

Alf and Maude back together again - never divorced.

Alf and Maude also adopted children.

In 1986 Alf lived Frank Whiddon Masonic Homes, Raines House Level 2, 81 Belmont Road Glenfield NSW 2167 until his death in 1988.

Alfred born 12 June, 1901 died 25 March, 1988

Cramp 8.3 Children of George Ernest Cramp and Mary Ann Eliza (Watkins).

9.1     Family of Mabel Annie CRAMP

Mabel Annie the eldest child of George Ernest Cramp (grocer) and Mary was born 5 June, 1893 at 84 Brougham Street, Glebe NSW (ref 335 NSW), she married (1) on 7 February, 1914 at the Manse (Presbyterian) Granville, Charles Gordon Williamson a brick burner born 1885, son of James Williamson and Janet (Gifford).  Mabel was engaged in domestic duties at "Tynewood" Beecroft and from this union a son Donald was born at Eastwood NSW on 26 September, 1914. 

On the 24 September, 1921 Mabel married (2) at the Central Methodist Mission Sydney, a wool sorter, Sidney Percy Parkes born 1898 (ref 28491).  Sidney was the son of Henry Eben Parkes and Emily (Medlicott) [their marriage 1897 ref 4781 NSW].  Mabel was engaged in domestic duties at Strathfield and was listed as divorced.  A daughter Sidnie Stafford was born on 4 May, 1922 at St Leonards NSW.  Sidney Percy had three brothers, Edmund H (born 1904/26474), Victor and George (Emily's son from previous union) and one sister Gladys S M (Born 1900/19788).  In 1922 the family lived Helen Street, Artarmon NSW.

Whilst living at 61A Premier Street (phone LL2468), Mabel again married (3) c1941 at Marrickville NSW (when aged 48) to Frank Richard Butler but they separated early 1950's.  Frank continued to live in Sydney until his death and Mabel lived at Lot 111 Dymond Street Bargo for many years until her death on July 27, 1971 (aged 78 years) of Myocardial degeneration and bronchopneumonia at Camden District Hospital, Menangle Road Camden (ref A829087 NSW).  On her death certificate she was shown as a widow.  She was cremated two days after her death, at the Forest Lawn Crematorium Leppington and was interred in the wall (Memorial niche No 1) of the Redbank Uniting Church (formerly Wesleyan Chapel) Picton in April, 1987.

I will always remember Mabel very fondly.  For many years I travelled to Bargo nearly every school holiday to stay with her.  Though the property was only six acres and she only raised chickens and had a small fruit orchard, it was always lots of fun to visit the "Farm".

Donald had enrolled in the Australian Military Forces at Picton on 11 December, 1941 and lived most of his life at Dymond Street Bargo he eventually married Bella Blake, however, this union was very short lived. 

He died 27 January, 1993 at Queen Victoria Hospital Picton aged 78 years.  Donald was interred at Forest Lawn Crematorium Leppington 1 February, 1993. 

Sidney Percy Parkes born 1898 (ref 28491) died 18 June, 1948.

Emily (Medlicott) died aged 93

Cramp 9.1   Children of Mabel (Cramp) and Sidney Parkes

Sidnie Stafford Parkes born 4 May, 1922 married 3rd August, 1941 Cyril Edgar Goile born NZ.

From this union Lauré Geness Stafford was born 30 November, 1943 at Haberfield NSW christened St Clements Church of England Marrickville.

They lived at 84 Northumberland Road Stanmore.   Sidnie and Cyril separated and Sidnie continued to live at 61 A Premier Street Marrickville with her mother Mabel and Frank Butler until about 1950.

Sidnie married (2)

Sidnie married (3) Aubrey Merriman Hunter c 1954 NI

Sidnie married (4) John Stanley Rolls born 23 May, 1925.  NI

In 1971 Sidnie and Jack Rolls lived at 21/B7 John Northcote Place Belvoir Street Surry Hills.  They moved to 15 Yinnie Street, Maroochydore and then on to Eucalyptus Drive Pialba (Hervey Bay Qld)

Cyril Goile married (2) Moya Olive Stewart and now live in the Bega Tathra region.

Cramp 10.2        Children of Sidnie Stafford (Parkes) and Cyril Edgar Goile

Lauré Geness Stafford Goile

Lauré Geness Stafford Goile born 30 November, 1943 married Anthony Oliver Frank Walker born 6 January, 1941 at the Wesley Chapel Russel Street Melbourne on 7 July, 1961.  From this union three children were born. 

David Eden born 26 June, 1962 married Julie Steel 18 July, 1984 and Lyndon born 24 February, 1984

Leigh Robyn born 30 September, 1963 married Peter Maxwell 25 October, 1987 NI

Lauré and Anthony lived at the Navel Base Waterhen Street Nowra.  In 1963 moved to 53 Pank Parade Blacktown till 1974. 

Ian Anthony born on April Fools Day 1969, had three issue - Louise born 19 September (mother's name Elena) and Jarrod Anthony born 6 July, 1991 and Sharna Louise born 5 October, 1996  (mother's name Wendy Norris).

Anthony was stationed in California USA and returned to Australia May 1977.  Lauré and Tony separated only a few weeks after their return to Australia (25 May) and Lauré lived in Queensland (Maroochydore) with her mother Sidnie until 18 March, 1978 when she moved to Sydney NSW and hasn't looked back.

Lauré's Schooling was varied at Bargo, Marrickville and Bega. 

In 1995 Lauré was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.

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[1] Article published in "Timespan" a Journal of the Nepean Family History Society Inc (NSW) No 36 Sept 1989.

[2] (Refer Sydney Telegraph May 23, 1963 Bogle Chandler Case).